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mcginnis does not have a self-defense status because the defendant has no right of self-defense has to any harm he caused to mr. mcginnis. that's what the instruction is telling the jury. but if he was acting lawfully in self-defense with respect to mr. rosenbaum, then it kills one of the elements. i think i'm reading that right. it gives him an absolution with respect to the element of -- what is the precise element? >> number two? >> yeah. unreasonable and substantial risk of death. it says then the jury can't find it, well, if they can't find that, they can't find one of the elements so they have to find the defendant not guilty. >> judge, do you think it's appropriate on page 9 to say the tft was acting lawfully in self-defense as it relates to joseph rosenbaum? i think that makes it clearer. >> where do you want it put in? >> where, did you say? >> yeah. >> on page 9, it would be the -- right, so there's a subheading determining whether the beliefs were reasonable. i think it's the third or fourth to the last sentence. >> okay. with respect to the -- >> joseph rosenbaum. >> with r
mcginnis does not have a self-defense status because the defendant has no right of self-defense has to any harm he caused to mr. mcginnis. that's what the instruction is telling the jury. but if he was acting lawfully in self-defense with respect to mr. rosenbaum, then it kills one of the elements. i think i'm reading that right. it gives him an absolution with respect to the element of -- what is the precise element? >> number two? >> yeah. unreasonable and substantial risk of...
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chuck hagel being effectively forced out as the defense secreta secretary, the third defense secretary in the obama administration. let's get more analysis. jake tapper, you've done studying into ash carter's background. we know he was assistant defense secretary during the bill clinton administration, a deputy defense secretary during the obama administration, the number two man at the department of defense. what else do we need to know? >> well, it's important for people to realize that carter, his challenge will be more within the political realm of washington, d.c. and the pentagon and capitol hill and the white house than, for instance, it will be about fighting isis. centcom is in charge of fighting isis and they can doing about as much as they can do without any real legitimate troops on the ground fighting that group in syria and iraq. the challenges that ash carter faces will be to represent the joint chiefs of staff who are -- i wouldn't say they're in open revolt but they're close to going public with their concerns as i'm sure barbara can attest about the sequester. that is
chuck hagel being effectively forced out as the defense secreta secretary, the third defense secretary in the obama administration. let's get more analysis. jake tapper, you've done studying into ash carter's background. we know he was assistant defense secretary during the bill clinton administration, a deputy defense secretary during the obama administration, the number two man at the department of defense. what else do we need to know? >> well, it's important for people to realize that...
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how does the defense deal with it? does zimmerman's lawyer come out and call witnesses and say you know some of his best friends are african-american, which apparently may be true, but does that -- is that too much? do you wind up offending the jury? i think the defense is put in a very difficult position, if their client is accused of being a racist. how do you respond to that? i don't know the answer and i am sure the defense will work its way through that as the trial progresses, but i think that's just a very interesting strategic dilemma for the defense. >> defense attorney, mark, how would you go about that? >> i think this thing is going to play out the way o'mara wants it to play out. mark is going to i don't think put his client on the stand. it is rare any defense lawyer, absent the sky falling in wants to put their client on the stand. i think he's going to try this case within the prosecution's case. if the prosecution wants to go down the race road, he'll deal with it within cross examination. i don't see
how does the defense deal with it? does zimmerman's lawyer come out and call witnesses and say you know some of his best friends are african-american, which apparently may be true, but does that -- is that too much? do you wind up offending the jury? i think the defense is put in a very difficult position, if their client is accused of being a racist. how do you respond to that? i don't know the answer and i am sure the defense will work its way through that as the trial progresses, but i think...
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the defense is very upset. in april they asked in open court if the prosecution had any information about trayvon martin that they had not handed over. the prosecution said no. that may be very rightly so. in fact. it's a long story, but their head i.t. person was called to the stand in a hearing right before trial began to say he had prepared over a 900-page report on the contents of trayvon martin's phone in january 2013. he was concerned, because he didn't think the defense had gone it. he got a lawyer, because he thought he could be charged with something. the defense did not get that report. they got it on the eve of trial. and not winning around, and they're frustrated, because if they have that foundation, they probably would have gotten in some of the fighting. >> there's claims d. could be a teenage boy, bragging could be a teenage boy, recounting what he actually went through. the court is in resist right now. we're going to take another quick break, but david, as a former prosecutor, walk us through,
the defense is very upset. in april they asked in open court if the prosecution had any information about trayvon martin that they had not handed over. the prosecution said no. that may be very rightly so. in fact. it's a long story, but their head i.t. person was called to the stand in a hearing right before trial began to say he had prepared over a 900-page report on the contents of trayvon martin's phone in january 2013. he was concerned, because he didn't think the defense had gone it. he...
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self-defense -- excuse me. criminal code in wisconsin provides that a person is privileged to intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what he reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his own person by the other person. however, he may intentionally use only such force as he reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. he may not intentionally use force, which is intended or likely to cause death unless he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself. as applied to this case, the effect of the law of self-defense is the defendant is not guilty of any homicide offense if the defendant reasonably believed that he was preventing or terminating an unlawful interference with his own person or reasonably believed the force used by him -- excuse me -- and reasonably believed the force that the force used by him was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily har
self-defense -- excuse me. criminal code in wisconsin provides that a person is privileged to intentionally use force against another for the purpose of preventing or terminating what he reasonably believes to be an unlawful interference with his own person by the other person. however, he may intentionally use only such force as he reasonably believes is necessary to prevent or terminate the interference. he may not intentionally use force, which is intended or likely to cause death unless he...
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scuff defense. honey! scuff defense. [ chuckles ] scuff! -defense! i love our scuff-free life. you too, scruff defense. today let's paint with the interior paint that's too tough to scuff. behr. exclusively at the home depot. >>> fate of derek chauvin now in the hands of the jury. jurors began deliberating tonight in the trial of the ex-minneapolis police officer accused of murder and manslaughter in the death of george floyd. they are done for the night, now, and resume in the morning. in closing arguments, though, the prosecutors telling jurors to believe what they saw, in that video. chauvin kneeling on george floyd's neck for nine-and-a-half minutes. but in his summation, the defense attorney saying chauvin acted as a reasonable officer would -- a reasonable officer would, in that situation. let's discuss, now. cnn senior legal analyst, laura coates, is here. former-federal prosecutor. and legal analyst, joey jackson, a criminal-defense attorney. by the way, laura -- laura, you're from minneapolis, right? so, i think, you know, i think we should say that. good evening, to b
scuff defense. honey! scuff defense. [ chuckles ] scuff! -defense! i love our scuff-free life. you too, scruff defense. today let's paint with the interior paint that's too tough to scuff. behr. exclusively at the home depot. >>> fate of derek chauvin now in the hands of the jury. jurors began deliberating tonight in the trial of the ex-minneapolis police officer accused of murder and manslaughter in the death of george floyd. they are done for the night, now, and resume in the...
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the defense would like it to be admitted, showing what the defense says happened on that night when george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin. the prosecution, the state, doesn't want the animation released as evidence. the judge has to make a decision whether or not this animation, which is mostly, we're told, still photos of what the defense says happened when trayvon martin, they say, was on top of george zimmerman, was beating him, and then george zimmerman took out his gun and shot and killed trayvon martin in the heart. we're monitoring this largely legal technical discussion that's going on before the judge. there you see mark o'mara, the criminal defense attorney for george zimmerman, will go back there once we get word on this. of course, once the jurors go back into the courtroom and the defense resumes calling witnesses, we'll have live coverage, so stand by for that. >>> but there's other news we're covering in the "cnn newsroom," as well. they were held captive for a decade and they finally got their freedom after a dramatic rescue two months ago and now they are breakin
the defense would like it to be admitted, showing what the defense says happened on that night when george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin. the prosecution, the state, doesn't want the animation released as evidence. the judge has to make a decision whether or not this animation, which is mostly, we're told, still photos of what the defense says happened when trayvon martin, they say, was on top of george zimmerman, was beating him, and then george zimmerman took out his gun and shot...
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missile defense agency. when asked about the report's findings, a spokesman cited this defense report from january. it says the missile defense system has demonstrated a measure of capability to defend the united states, deploy forces and alloys from a rogue nation's missile attack, and that its most advanced radar will be able to separate the warhead from a cloud of decoys. u.s. think tank csis says this shows an undeclared north korean missile days miles from the chinese border, a potential launch site for icbms. >> we need to understand there is no military solution. >> reporter: former u.s. ambassador joseph yeun believes the only option is to take a page from the playbook of donald trump and reach out directly to kim jong-un. do you think it's a mistake the biden administration is not focus mortgage on north korea? >> i think it is a mistake. i think the longer this situation continues, more serious will the provocations be. >> reporter: he says diplomacy may be the only way to keep the missiles from fl
missile defense agency. when asked about the report's findings, a spokesman cited this defense report from january. it says the missile defense system has demonstrated a measure of capability to defend the united states, deploy forces and alloys from a rogue nation's missile attack, and that its most advanced radar will be able to separate the warhead from a cloud of decoys. u.s. think tank csis says this shows an undeclared north korean missile days miles from the chinese border, a potential...
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, self-defense, self-defense. he had do it. he didn't back-pedal. he didn't apologize. he embraced the defense. for some people, men in particular, that may sound really good. on the other hand, you may have females or more liberal-leaning people who didn't appreciate the style necessarily, didn't appreciate the lack of apology, didn't appreciate what they may have perceived as a lack of respect for human life in that defense argument. so, again, it may depend on who is in the box and who is listening and that will dictate. >> thank you, gentlemen. i have to move on i appreciate it. undoubtedly, we will see you back here again. >>> this whole case is likely to come down to one key question. was it self-defense? elie honig is here in the studio with me to walk us through the self-defense claim. good to see you. thank you for joining us. it's been a while. i want to get into this idea about provocation. the defense is accusing the prosecution of lying when they say kyle rittenhouse provoked violence in kenosha. this
, self-defense, self-defense. he had do it. he didn't back-pedal. he didn't apologize. he embraced the defense. for some people, men in particular, that may sound really good. on the other hand, you may have females or more liberal-leaning people who didn't appreciate the style necessarily, didn't appreciate the lack of apology, didn't appreciate what they may have perceived as a lack of respect for human life in that defense argument. so, again, it may depend on who is in the box and who is...
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this defense is doing very well. they should rest and let this go to the jury. >> let me counter argue that to danny and get your opinion. what the defense is saying is well, look, the prosecution, you know, went to great lengths to get evidence of george zimmerman allegedly learning mixed martial arts and that was allowed in. so if there are, in fact, texts from trayvon martin where he's talking about being in a three-round fight with somebody and that he won the fight and he wants to fight again, should that be allowed in, if george zimmerman mixed martial arts training was allowed in, danny. >> it's fascinating that you bring this up. for defense attorneys everywhere, including mr. geragos, when you see that text messaging expert, we've had so many clients that have been burned by what's on their cell phone. it's interesting to see it on the other side. but sunny is right, it must be authenticated. that's a preliminary issue. before we reach whether or not it's probative or too prejudicial, we have to examine whet
this defense is doing very well. they should rest and let this go to the jury. >> let me counter argue that to danny and get your opinion. what the defense is saying is well, look, the prosecution, you know, went to great lengths to get evidence of george zimmerman allegedly learning mixed martial arts and that was allowed in. so if there are, in fact, texts from trayvon martin where he's talking about being in a three-round fight with somebody and that he won the fight and he wants to...
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you mentioned from the defense department? i know who was on there from the police and d.c. >> lieutenant general michael flynn. he was in charge of operations for the army. the director of the army staff was on the phone -- was on the call, lieutenant general pyatt, other senior civilian leaders from the united states army and other high-ranking general officers were on the call as well. >> okay. do you remember who was mostly talking about the optics, the questions that senator peters asked you and their concern about that? >> yes. during the phone call with the district of columbia leaders, the deputy mayor, chief sund, dr. rodriguez, who was talking about optics were general flynn and general pyatt. they both said it wouldn't be in their best military advice to advise the secretary of the army to have uniformed guards members at the capitol during the election confirmation. >> thank you. mr. salesses, could you explain why they would say such a thing? i know you were not on the call, and you were the one they sent here on
you mentioned from the defense department? i know who was on there from the police and d.c. >> lieutenant general michael flynn. he was in charge of operations for the army. the director of the army staff was on the phone -- was on the call, lieutenant general pyatt, other senior civilian leaders from the united states army and other high-ranking general officers were on the call as well. >> okay. do you remember who was mostly talking about the optics, the questions that senator...
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he's got to show that self-defense is a defense both to murder and to manslaughter. he's got a big problem with this manslaughter. the jury might want to compromise and convict him of manslaughter. that would be a disaster for george zimmerman. he's got to make the argument that self-defense is an absolute defense to both charges and try to persuade the jury not to compromise. >> it's interesting when you compare mark o'hara's style to the prosecutor today. o'mara, and you've been in the court more than anybody, how does his style play in that courtroom? on television, he seems very methodical, very calm, and he's been able to score some real points with prosecution witnesses. >> i think it plays very well, especially when you compare him to don west. the judge likes him. the jury likes him. he's a very likable lawyer. he's got a really great demeanor. his voice is soothing. and i think he comes across as sort of proffesorial. i expect his summation to be very good, and i'm interested in seeing how he incorporates the animation into his presentation. he did say, ande
he's got to show that self-defense is a defense both to murder and to manslaughter. he's got a big problem with this manslaughter. the jury might want to compromise and convict him of manslaughter. that would be a disaster for george zimmerman. he's got to make the argument that self-defense is an absolute defense to both charges and try to persuade the jury not to compromise. >> it's interesting when you compare mark o'hara's style to the prosecutor today. o'mara, and you've been in the...
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then he can use self-defense. in this case, because zimmerman is characterized by some as being the one crying for help, the jury could believe that he did try to pull back and stop, and even though he was the initial aggressor, he tried to stop and trayvon martin would not stop. at that point, he would be entitled to use self-defense. even if you believe both of these key witnesses for the prosecution, you could find zimmerman not guilty. >> danny, do you agree with that? >> yeah. i want to go back to the mixed martial arts issue. that word was used by a witness to the fight. that that was told by someone in the medical field years ago, that's like if someone tackled someone, they played high school football. the fact that he was involved in training doesn't mean that on that particular night he was winning this tussle and grinding and pounding trayvon martin. it just doesn't -- the nexus just isn't there. on the other hand, as we go through this case, ask yourself, remember all the defense has to go is come forw
then he can use self-defense. in this case, because zimmerman is characterized by some as being the one crying for help, the jury could believe that he did try to pull back and stop, and even though he was the initial aggressor, he tried to stop and trayvon martin would not stop. at that point, he would be entitled to use self-defense. even if you believe both of these key witnesses for the prosecution, you could find zimmerman not guilty. >> danny, do you agree with that? >> yeah....
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did the defense do what the defense needed to do here? >> so it's funny. throughout this trial, i have been a bit judgmental in regards to the prosecution. i didn't think they gave a very strong opening. i thought their presentation of the case was pretty flat, and i thought the prosecutor in many ways was flat. i didn't think it during his summation. i actually thought, he has a gentlemanly way about him and i think he used that along with being incredibly assertive to really make his points. i thought he was incredibly organized. i thought he pulled out those parts that he needed to, to corroborate and support his position that kyle rittenhouse, by coming out there that day, with that weapon, with that weapon that he really didn't understand how to use, slowly created a scenario of recklessness and chaos that led to these deaths. now the defense, it's true, you know, the big point is that the prosecution bears the burden. not just bearing the burden of proving his guilt but disproving self-defense. the defense, while they did a good job, they were a bit
did the defense do what the defense needed to do here? >> so it's funny. throughout this trial, i have been a bit judgmental in regards to the prosecution. i didn't think they gave a very strong opening. i thought their presentation of the case was pretty flat, and i thought the prosecutor in many ways was flat. i didn't think it during his summation. i actually thought, he has a gentlemanly way about him and i think he used that along with being incredibly assertive to really make his...
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defense officials, intelligence officials. their nightmare scenario is an enemy of the united states, whether russia, north korea, iran, china dealing with power grids and really griernding thi country to a halt. >> i think it does. it goes back to the conflict questions we were just talking about. rudy giuliani runs a company. he runs a consulting company that's got its hands in a lot of places, legal and other places. so my question is he going to step aside from that company. i haven't seen the announcement fully yet. >> the company gives cyber security advice to corporate firms. >> right, exactly. >> very lucrative line of work right now. >> he may not have to leave the company. we'll see whether he will or not. the key thing on this conflicts of interest question and maybe it's regarding rudy giuliani as well i was talking to somebody who has known trump for many, many years and he said, look, the way donald trump looks at this as a businessman is different from the way you people in washington look at this. we all look a
defense officials, intelligence officials. their nightmare scenario is an enemy of the united states, whether russia, north korea, iran, china dealing with power grids and really griernding thi country to a halt. >> i think it does. it goes back to the conflict questions we were just talking about. rudy giuliani runs a company. he runs a consulting company that's got its hands in a lot of places, legal and other places. so my question is he going to step aside from that company. i haven't...
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he is detained at the ministry of defense. warrants have been issued for the muslim brotherhood. >>> the south african government is denying reports that nelson man dale is in a vegetative state. officials say the former president remains in critical, but stable condition. court documents show mandela's health declined so sharply last week that his family was advised by cross turn off his life support machine. mandela is 94 years old. >>> paula deen is parting ways with the agent who helped make her a star. she thanked barry weiner for his dedication over the years. since deen admitted using the "n" word, a dozen companies stopped doing business with her. >> for the first time since she received new lung, the 10-year-old who sued to challenge national transplant rules is seen in the video mouthing hi and i love you. sarah received a second lung transplant after the first set of lungs failed. she still cannot breathe without the-a machine. >>> now a cnn special, self-defense or murder, the george zimmerman trial. >>> the defens
he is detained at the ministry of defense. warrants have been issued for the muslim brotherhood. >>> the south african government is denying reports that nelson man dale is in a vegetative state. officials say the former president remains in critical, but stable condition. court documents show mandela's health declined so sharply last week that his family was advised by cross turn off his life support machine. mandela is 94 years old. >>> paula deen is parting ways with the...
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nobody expects when the defense is self-defense to extol the virtues of the victim. that reality. when people are facing life in prison, i'm sure the lawyers are using what they can to combat it. here i imagine they were trying to say he's not a jogger through the neighborhood. he's been out here before. he's here for no other reason. whatever it is and again, we can disagree with it personally and i do and that's what i tried to say. >> the problem, michael, briefly, there is a manner to do that. we know in this profession it's very difficult and we know we represent people in some very extreme circumstances but you have to thread that needle. yes, you have to defend your client, yes, you have to say you're an immediate fear. you i have to say there are issues in the neighborhood that were amiss and i believe this is the issue but to completely dehumanize someone, what does nails or something else? i don't get it. i'll win cases and lose cases but i think i'll try the best i can to do what is ethically proper and not bury and nail the coffins of the dead and i just thought there
nobody expects when the defense is self-defense to extol the virtues of the victim. that reality. when people are facing life in prison, i'm sure the lawyers are using what they can to combat it. here i imagine they were trying to say he's not a jogger through the neighborhood. he's been out here before. he's here for no other reason. whatever it is and again, we can disagree with it personally and i do and that's what i tried to say. >> the problem, michael, briefly, there is a manner to...
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the defense lawyers wanted mr. zimmerman to be able to live outside of the county where he lives, seminole county and they wanted it because they said it was a safety issue for their client. but the judge said too bad. he also denied defense requests for additional evidence in the case, as you probably know, he stands accused of the second-degree murder in the shooting of trayvon martin last february following what was described as an altercation. zimmerman claims self-defense under florida's stand your ground law. joining me with his take on the hearing and developments defense attorney joey jackson. a couple of things on the docket today. you were busy watching this for us. the gps monitoring, what's -- why did he think he had a shot at that? >> well you know what? a gps obviously limits you, limits ability to travel and there's arguments may be made by the defense, my client's safety is at issue, he needs to get out of seminole county and needs to meet with witnesses, prepare for his defense. >> can't they apply
the defense lawyers wanted mr. zimmerman to be able to live outside of the county where he lives, seminole county and they wanted it because they said it was a safety issue for their client. but the judge said too bad. he also denied defense requests for additional evidence in the case, as you probably know, he stands accused of the second-degree murder in the shooting of trayvon martin last february following what was described as an altercation. zimmerman claims self-defense under florida's...
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defense attorney mark o'mara spoke today saying the defense has what it needs to acquit in his opinion. he joins us exclusively tonight. we'll talk with one of the martin family attorneys and our legal panel. a full night ahead. let's get you up to date on what happened in court today. martin savidge begins our coverage. >> reporter: it's been the question dominate thing entire trial. would george zimmerman take the stand? and today judge nelson asked him directly. >> have you made a decision? >> yes, your honor. >> what is your decision, sir? >> after consulting with counsel, not to testify, your honor. >> is it your decision not to testify in this case? >> yes, your honor. >> are you making that decision freely and voluntarily? >> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a use of force consultant who testified based on his analysis that zimmerman was non-confrontational, lacking a warrior mentality, but it was a dumby that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of
defense attorney mark o'mara spoke today saying the defense has what it needs to acquit in his opinion. he joins us exclusively tonight. we'll talk with one of the martin family attorneys and our legal panel. a full night ahead. let's get you up to date on what happened in court today. martin savidge begins our coverage. >> reporter: it's been the question dominate thing entire trial. would george zimmerman take the stand? and today judge nelson asked him directly. >> have you made...
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the whole issue here is self-defense. as the prosecutors try to take that away, that's the defense saying he felt threatened, was under threat and grade the prosecutors so far with a ways to go. >> yeah, and also a key point there, not only are they arguing self-defense by provocation, right? that was a key issue in this case whether or not prosecutors would even be allowed to argue about provocation which under wisconsin essentially takes away that self-defense claim. it's kind of a tricky legal burden shift, if you will, but i really think that, you know, commentators were saying that the prosecution had an uphill battle even going into today. i think even more so now after that just complete you know what show of dissell nation of the jury instructions. it was appalling what took place in that courtroom. the judge sounded like a first year law student in a criminal exam sort of -- he had like kind of a stream of consciousness talking to the jury. i really thrill that the confusion that he sewed among jurors is really g
the whole issue here is self-defense. as the prosecutors try to take that away, that's the defense saying he felt threatened, was under threat and grade the prosecutors so far with a ways to go. >> yeah, and also a key point there, not only are they arguing self-defense by provocation, right? that was a key issue in this case whether or not prosecutors would even be allowed to argue about provocation which under wisconsin essentially takes away that self-defense claim. it's kind of a...
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the defense story. the law allows you to disregard his testimony from the witness stand if you don't find it credible. [ inaudible ] the law allows you to consider his actions at the time of the murder if you don't find him credible. intent to commit a crime. well, ladies and gentlemen, you've got to find they intended to commit these crimes, and how do you look at that? you look at the natural and necessary consequences of the act, right? natural and necessary consequences of an act. deadly force is the last resort. never point a gun at someone you do not intend to shoot. so when you start pointing a shotgun directly at somebody, what's your intention? the natural and necessary xwenss offense the act, you're going to kill this person. you're pointing at it. you may find intention or the absence of intention upon consideration of their words, their conduct. what did they do out there? their demeanor. their motive and other circumstances. so when you look at each defendant separately, because that's what
the defense story. the law allows you to disregard his testimony from the witness stand if you don't find it credible. [ inaudible ] the law allows you to consider his actions at the time of the murder if you don't find him credible. intent to commit a crime. well, ladies and gentlemen, you've got to find they intended to commit these crimes, and how do you look at that? you look at the natural and necessary consequences of the act, right? natural and necessary consequences of an act. deadly...
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facie case of self-defense. i'm going to assume the court is satisfied they have done so because if they haven't, school is out already. i believe the defendant started this or that at a very minimum, trayvon martin had as much right to defend himself as this defendant claims he did. but i'll get back to that notion in a minute. but where a defendant claims self-defense, the state has to rebut it. the state may present such evidence through rebuttal witnesses or by inference in its case in chief. moving across to the next column, laesure argued the state failed to meet its burden because there were no eyewitnesses to contract did her testimony and the medical evidence did not contra dkt her testimony. she argues her inconsistent statements to the police were nothing more than the use of extremely poor judgment after she panicked. this is sounding exceedingly familiar. however, even when there are no other witnesses to the events besides the defendant and in this case there weren't, even mr. good was long gone be
facie case of self-defense. i'm going to assume the court is satisfied they have done so because if they haven't, school is out already. i believe the defendant started this or that at a very minimum, trayvon martin had as much right to defend himself as this defendant claims he did. but i'll get back to that notion in a minute. but where a defendant claims self-defense, the state has to rebut it. the state may present such evidence through rebuttal witnesses or by inference in its case in...
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you've covered the secretary of defense. immediate speculation emerging, not even enveloped of the president's decision to remove and withdraw u.s. troops from syria and now there's indications that the president wants to do the same thing in afghanistan where the u.s. has 14,000 troops. what are you hearing? >> reporter: this news just breaking at this hour. secretary mattis, retiring, no. secretary mattis is being pushed pout ther-- pushed out. there had been for weeks that jim mattis would never leave of his own will. this was someone who wanted to stay on the job through thick or thin. we had often talked to him in these hallways about it. privately he felt very strongly that he had come back, retired actually from military service, and had come back as secretary of defense to serve the troops. that is what he wanted to do. let's be very clear. he's pushed out. his influence had waned in recent weeks. there were several issues that he had lost out on. but, you know, as we think about this, it is this last issue, the issu
you've covered the secretary of defense. immediate speculation emerging, not even enveloped of the president's decision to remove and withdraw u.s. troops from syria and now there's indications that the president wants to do the same thing in afghanistan where the u.s. has 14,000 troops. what are you hearing? >> reporter: this news just breaking at this hour. secretary mattis, retiring, no. secretary mattis is being pushed pout ther-- pushed out. there had been for weeks that jim mattis...
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remember the defense made a big deal about this guy during opening statements the defense says this guy named roy kronk was moeshlly bankrupt and that he hid kay caylee's body. did the defense bolster that today or did it backfire? we'll take a look. plus casey's father george anthony on the stand asked whether he had an affair with a volunteer searcher, a woman who says george told her caylee's death was an accident. and a closer look at the relationship between george and his daughter. be right back. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. introducing better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance. if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? morning starts with arthritis pain... that's two pills before the first bell. [ bell rings ] it's time for recess... and more pills. afternoon art starts and so does her knee pain, that's two more pills. almost done, but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve because it can relieve pain all day with just two pills. th
remember the defense made a big deal about this guy during opening statements the defense says this guy named roy kronk was moeshlly bankrupt and that he hid kay caylee's body. did the defense bolster that today or did it backfire? we'll take a look. plus casey's father george anthony on the stand asked whether he had an affair with a volunteer searcher, a woman who says george told her caylee's death was an accident. and a closer look at the relationship between george and his daughter. be...
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because self-defense is a complete defense to it. >> say that again. >> self-defense is a complete defense to second-degree murder and manslaughter. in these jury instructions, they would have already gone through the self-defense exercise. so if they are past second-degree murder and self-defense, and now they are on to manslaughter, it is quite possible that they have already disregarded george zimmerman's claims of self-defense. and that's -- i would be concerned about that if i were the defense team on here because that is what their whole case is about. >> if we can get back, first the definition of what manslaughter is as it pertains to the state of florida. put that up and i'll read it from there. then after that we'll talk about what they have to prove for manslaughter. because the bar is lower than it is for murder for second-degree murder. here is the definition. killing a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder. >> now, that looks very difficu
because self-defense is a complete defense to it. >> say that again. >> self-defense is a complete defense to second-degree murder and manslaughter. in these jury instructions, they would have already gone through the self-defense exercise. so if they are past second-degree murder and self-defense, and now they are on to manslaughter, it is quite possible that they have already disregarded george zimmerman's claims of self-defense. and that's -- i would be concerned about that if i...
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defense? >> those are very strong points of the defense. zimmerman is going to say that he's captain of the watch really, which is a group that's a security group within the gated community. he sees this strange individual. he had never seen trayvon martin before walking on a dark night, rainy night, into the community. he thinks he doesn't belong there. when he tries to approach him, he eventually calls the police. when the police say back off, he in fact does back off. turns and starts to walk back towards his vehicle. it's at that point that he's jumped from behind by trayvon martin, knocked to the ground and pummeled. now, remember martin is a 6'1" football player. he's a weight lifter, he's obviously in great shape. he's pounding and pounding against zimmerman. zimmerman reaches for the gun and fires to save his own life. that's the defense. >> the prosecution over here wants in. >> really, really? >> how do you respond to that version of the story? >> the bottom line is to be sure that a
defense? >> those are very strong points of the defense. zimmerman is going to say that he's captain of the watch really, which is a group that's a security group within the gated community. he sees this strange individual. he had never seen trayvon martin before walking on a dark night, rainy night, into the community. he thinks he doesn't belong there. when he tries to approach him, he eventually calls the police. when the police say back off, he in fact does back off. turns and starts...
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when you put the bricks together it's like the defense is building the defense case completely in the prosecution's case. it's been a disaster for the prosecution. >> fascinating assessment there judge alex. paige pate, what is your view because that flies against what many are saying. what do you think? >> i certainly agree that the defense had a great day today. it's not the common situation for a defense attorney to be able to use prosecution witnesses to prove their own case in the middle of the prosecution's case. and that's what is happening right now. i do think the prosecution had to call those witnesses warts and all, you got to get fact witnesses in front of the jury. you don't want to leave that for the defense lawyers, but all and all the defense is well ahead. >> they absolutely had to call john good because under florida law there is amis versus state which says if the defense calls a witness that the prosecution didn't call and knew about, the defense can get up in closing argument and say to the jury, we have no burden of proof but we had to call this witness because t
when you put the bricks together it's like the defense is building the defense case completely in the prosecution's case. it's been a disaster for the prosecution. >> fascinating assessment there judge alex. paige pate, what is your view because that flies against what many are saying. what do you think? >> i certainly agree that the defense had a great day today. it's not the common situation for a defense attorney to be able to use prosecution witnesses to prove their own case in...
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i think they will call the family, the defense will counter with tracy martin but i think the defense will put on dr. demayo. you don't hire a super star like that and not call them. i fully anticipate we'll see dr. vincent demayo take center stage in the defense's case. >> from a forensic standpoint -- >> i totally agree with what jose said. looking at the totality of the evidence, i think the state has not reached that high bar for second-degree murder. i see nothing inconsistent with george zimmerman's story. i think the state's case is slip sliding away. >> well, we'll see. days yet to go. appreciate my panelist. nope eeeeh... oh, guys let's leave the deals to hotels.com. ooh that one! nice. got it! oh my gosh this is so cool... awesome! perfect! yep, and no angry bears. the perfect place is on sale now. up to 40% off. only at hotels.com >>> get caught up on other stories we're following. susan hendrix has the 360 bulletin. >>> outrage in south america over what happened this this plane. the jet carrying bolivia's president. european authorities forced it to land on suspicion that
i think they will call the family, the defense will counter with tracy martin but i think the defense will put on dr. demayo. you don't hire a super star like that and not call them. i fully anticipate we'll see dr. vincent demayo take center stage in the defense's case. >> from a forensic standpoint -- >> i totally agree with what jose said. looking at the totality of the evidence, i think the state has not reached that high bar for second-degree murder. i see nothing inconsistent...
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i -- you know, people have a right to self-defense. you know, anthony had a right to his life as well with a different reading of that, you know, event. yeah, i -- i don't really know how to respond to that. it's -- so many laws were brought up that were inconsistent with our world that we live in today, you know, making decisions about evidence based on video tape cases that they're citing. nobody uses videotape anymore. it's a digital world. we need to catch up quickly. >> susan hughes, i really hope that time is a friend to the family and you guys are able to process and grieve and make sense of this and that you lean on each other and get through it. i'm sorry to meet you under these circumstances, and i'm sorry that i've got to say that so often to so many families. i wish you well and god bless the family. i'm sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> so, why did this happen? was it about getting the case wrong? did the jury get it wrong? i don't think so. did the prosecutors get it wrong? maybe. were they too ambitious? no one knows
i -- you know, people have a right to self-defense. you know, anthony had a right to his life as well with a different reading of that, you know, event. yeah, i -- i don't really know how to respond to that. it's -- so many laws were brought up that were inconsistent with our world that we live in today, you know, making decisions about evidence based on video tape cases that they're citing. nobody uses videotape anymore. it's a digital world. we need to catch up quickly. >> susan hughes,...
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how critical, sir, are these to our national defense? >> extremely critical. for example, let's take the joint strike fighter. that's the quintessential new american weapons system for the first part of this century. it costs $1.4 trillion so far. it's been plagued by a bunch of cost overruns and the reason for the cost overruns is because of many new added features to the aircraft and plus it has to not only meet air force requirements but marine and navy requirements, as well and then the foreign requirements so the program costs a lot of money. every time that something like this happens where the chinese or others get in to the weapons system and hack in to the plans for that weapons system, it means that new plans have to be developed and those costs go up even further. >> the thing is, you know, we know this, the chinese espionage, we are not breaking news here. this is not new. we know that the concern surged. we know that the administration expressed a concern to chinese governments. let's end with you, kevin. roading the "the washington post" piece, t
how critical, sir, are these to our national defense? >> extremely critical. for example, let's take the joint strike fighter. that's the quintessential new american weapons system for the first part of this century. it costs $1.4 trillion so far. it's been plagued by a bunch of cost overruns and the reason for the cost overruns is because of many new added features to the aircraft and plus it has to not only meet air force requirements but marine and navy requirements, as well and then...
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that's what the defense seized on. here's their rebuttal. >> we don't play fast and loose with the facts. pretending that mr. rosenbaum was citizen "a" number one guy. he was a bad man. he was there. he was causing trouble. he was a rioter. and my client had to deal with him that night alone. >> mr. rosenbaum was shot because he was chasing my client and going to kill him, take his gun and carry out the threats he made. >> the defense attorney actually said -- i have never heard this before. i'll ask in a few minute he said he's happy the defendant shot and killed mr. rosenbaum because if he had n't he would have taken the weapon and used on other people. a closing argument has to be anchored to the facts but this judge who you know couldn't find enough opportunities to talk let them go and didn't say anything. that is a huge leap for this jury. i wonder if it bothered them because there's no fact to support that. the only reasonable thing to argue is that he would use it on rittenhouse. rittenhouse's mother has been t
that's what the defense seized on. here's their rebuttal. >> we don't play fast and loose with the facts. pretending that mr. rosenbaum was citizen "a" number one guy. he was a bad man. he was there. he was causing trouble. he was a rioter. and my client had to deal with him that night alone. >> mr. rosenbaum was shot because he was chasing my client and going to kill him, take his gun and carry out the threats he made. >> the defense attorney actually said -- i have...
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>> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a use of force consultant, who testified based on his analysis, zimmerman was noncontrontational, lacking a warrior mentality. but it was a dummy that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of the day. it began when the prosecutor grabbed a mannequin to show their version of events. >> you recognize this as being a human-type figure, right? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: it was here the state seemed to concede trayvon martin could have been on top of george zimmerman, suggesting he was pulling away at the time he was shot. previously, the prosecution argued zimmerman was on top. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin had been backing up and the defendant raised his gun. >> reporter: the demonstration brought jurors to their feet to get a better view. >> were the injuries on the back of mr. zimmerman's head consistent with someone doing this? >> reporter: the defense concluded by calling two emotional witnesses.
>> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a use of force consultant, who testified based on his analysis, zimmerman was noncontrontational, lacking a warrior mentality. but it was a dummy that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of the day. it began when the prosecutor grabbed a mannequin to show their version of events. >> you recognize...
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and i think that really goes heavily toward the defense of self defense. and i think at the end of the day when you started out, good things for the prosecution. but angela corey, who is the state's prosecutor, saw those head shots before treatment. i'm not sure that charging him with second degree murder was really the smart thing to do here. looks like a manslaughter. >> really, richard? >> i don't think it's manslaughter, avery. look, fred, when you want to analyze credibility of a witness, you need to corroborate what the witness has said. what did zimmerman say? it looked like trayvon was on drugs. there was thc in his system. he said trayvon punched him in the nose, he had a broken nose. he said he was banging his head into the concrete. his head was cut and bloody. he said he was reaching for the drug. he pulled the gun and shot him at close range. all of this combined with the fact an eyewitness said he saw trayvon on top of zimmerman. his own father said the screams were not trayvon, and the witness initially said the man on the bottom was the one
and i think that really goes heavily toward the defense of self defense. and i think at the end of the day when you started out, good things for the prosecution. but angela corey, who is the state's prosecutor, saw those head shots before treatment. i'm not sure that charging him with second degree murder was really the smart thing to do here. looks like a manslaughter. >> really, richard? >> i don't think it's manslaughter, avery. look, fred, when you want to analyze credibility of...
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on defense side, daenny cevallos and mark geragos. mark, you think today was a big win for the defense? >> well, clearly. i don't think there's anybody who can see it or objectively look at what happened today and not understand that this was about as good a day as the defense is going to have. it also was the police's way of paying back the prosecution. you know, he was not arrested. >> do you think that's true? >> i think this was police payback, their way to kind of stick it to the prosecution because if you remember originally, the state's attorney did throw the police under the bus on this case. and so the police i think today paid them back. >> jeff, do you think that's true. >> i do think it's possible. the answers were so enthusiastically pro-zimmerman. these cops could have answered these questions in a more neutral way but they really did seem to be going out of their way to say zimmerman was a great guy, that he was honest, that they tried all their tricks, that he didn't ask for a lawyer, that he acted like a stand-up guy,
on defense side, daenny cevallos and mark geragos. mark, you think today was a big win for the defense? >> well, clearly. i don't think there's anybody who can see it or objectively look at what happened today and not understand that this was about as good a day as the defense is going to have. it also was the police's way of paying back the prosecution. you know, he was not arrested. >> do you think that's true? >> i think this was police payback, their way to kind of stick...
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a defense lawyer also depose his client later this week. in a big surprise thompson's name was added last week. the defense wants to ask him about calls that were made from his cell phone number to casey anthony's father the day before the 2-year-old caylee anthony was reported missing. mr. thompson said he never met him and didn't have the number, and the question in 2008 when caylee disappeared. no word on whether judge perry will allow him to testify. one thing is extremely clear. judge perry was losing patience and today he gave attorneys on both sides gave them a scolding and time-out. day 23 ended before the jury sat down. here's gary tuchman. >> reporter: casey anthony arrived in court for a full day of testimony and hear called by her attorney in an effort to help her case but it was not to be. >> enough is enough. >> reporter: because the judge is angry. he thinks the attorneys are plays games. >> it is quite evident that there is a friction between attorneys. >> reporter: the judge gave a piece of his mind to all the lawyers today
a defense lawyer also depose his client later this week. in a big surprise thompson's name was added last week. the defense wants to ask him about calls that were made from his cell phone number to casey anthony's father the day before the 2-year-old caylee anthony was reported missing. mr. thompson said he never met him and didn't have the number, and the question in 2008 when caylee disappeared. no word on whether judge perry will allow him to testify. one thing is extremely clear. judge...
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his defense was that it was in self-defense and the jury apparently agreed with that. sara, let me come back to you because we do know that this case was full of emotion by both sides, by people in with ensomewhat, wisconsin. remember this all happened in february -- excuse me, in august i believe of 2020. it was in the summer of 2020 following the black lives matter protests, after the death of george floyd, of course, and so there was so much emotion, right, when all of this happened, and that emotion really, you know, came to fruition again as this trial was under way, and we know that the governor of wisconsin has been concerned about heightened emotion following any verdict. what is the status as far as security and that sort of thing right now? >> reporter: we knew that something was going to happen and that the jury had reached some sort of a verdict because all of a sudden there were a multiple number of deputies and members of the atf inside the court that had not been there or at least had not been visible throughout this trial. we also know that the national
his defense was that it was in self-defense and the jury apparently agreed with that. sara, let me come back to you because we do know that this case was full of emotion by both sides, by people in with ensomewhat, wisconsin. remember this all happened in february -- excuse me, in august i believe of 2020. it was in the summer of 2020 following the black lives matter protests, after the death of george floyd, of course, and so there was so much emotion, right, when all of this happened, and...
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ministerial defense in february. further a transition to a new secretary of defense occurs well in advance of chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in september in order to ensure stability within the department. having that been said, the president making sure it's the deputy defense secretary who gets that job january 1. is there concern about a smooth transition? >> let's be clear. mattis is going to be gone in a week. for all we know, he might be upstairs here in the pentagon in his office right now packing his boxes. he will be gone in just a few coming days. shanahan will have to take over at the nato ministerial upcoming and have to present the department's multibillion, hundreds of billions of dollars of budget spending to congress. i suspect he will have to rely on general dunford, the chairman of the joint chiefs. don't expect a big public farewell to the troops from jim mattis. we are being told very quietly that mattis planned to essentially fadeaway. he does not want to cause more instability and others
ministerial defense in february. further a transition to a new secretary of defense occurs well in advance of chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in september in order to ensure stability within the department. having that been said, the president making sure it's the deputy defense secretary who gets that job january 1. is there concern about a smooth transition? >> let's be clear. mattis is going to be gone in a week. for all we know, he might be upstairs here in the pentagon in his...
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if they buy it itself defense, if not, it's manslaughter e. i don't see second. >>> the man that defended another controversial client, casey anthony. i'll ask him how he thought the defense did. the will behind will macavoy. in the newsroom with me tonight. >>> court still in session tonight in the case most >> in the florida law, that's what matters. what happens before, after is irrelevant. >> if at that point he's in reasonable fear for his look and dr. di maio said, if a guy has -- this was his quote if the guy has the injuries he had you take him to the er because this little minor cuts on the back of the head are not dangerous but indicative of a serious impact on the head that would cause brain swelling, bleeding things like that. that's the point the defense will make. they will say how does george know? if his head is getting hit, nose is broken, how does he know if the next hit will crack his skull and that's what they will rely on. if they buy it itself defense, if not, it's manslaughter e. i don't see second. >>> the man that defe
if they buy it itself defense, if not, it's manslaughter e. i don't see second. >>> the man that defended another controversial client, casey anthony. i'll ask him how he thought the defense did. the will behind will macavoy. in the newsroom with me tonight. >>> court still in session tonight in the case most >> in the florida law, that's what matters. what happens before, after is irrelevant. >> if at that point he's in reasonable fear for his look and dr. di maio...
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self-defense, self-defense, self-defense. remember at the beginning we heard an opening statement by the prosecution that we were going to see all sorts of things, including trayvon martin on top. well, that went up in smoke. it never went anywhere. but when in closing argument, when we saw the way the defense showed the jury, look, this is what this means, looks at this concrete. it's ground and pound. and on top of that, what else should we see when it came to that? self-defense, self-defense, self-defense. once you show that, the prosecution can't disprove it, you're looking at acquittal. >> richard, before you jump in, why don't we actually listen to that bit of the closing argument from mark o'mara. it's one of the highlight moments that stuck with people and you can imagine also stuck with the jury. do we have that clip? let's go to that. >> that's cement. that is a sidewalk, and that is not an unarmed teenager with nothing but skittles trying to get home. that was somebody who used the availability of dangerous items f
self-defense, self-defense, self-defense. remember at the beginning we heard an opening statement by the prosecution that we were going to see all sorts of things, including trayvon martin on top. well, that went up in smoke. it never went anywhere. but when in closing argument, when we saw the way the defense showed the jury, look, this is what this means, looks at this concrete. it's ground and pound. and on top of that, what else should we see when it came to that? self-defense,...
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defense? certainly that's what we've been led to believe so far. >> it seems that way to me from everything that i've seen from the media. certainly that's going to be one facet of the defense. i just have no idea yet. >> what is the next step right now, mr. o'mara? whi when do you go to court? >> there will be a bond motion tomorrow where a judge will hear some of the facts of the case and decide how and under what conditions to release mr. zirmmzir zimmerman. >> what do you expect after that, which i assume at some point is he'll enter a plea. >> well, he'll enter a plea of not guilty which any defendant would do at this point. then we go through discovery, which will give us a lot more information than we have now. >> do you have any kind of idea what kind of time schedule will be on for that? you obviously have a very steep learning curve at this point. >> absolutely. but i intend to get caught up to speed very quickly. the state has to get discovery the next fit15 days. we'll work through
defense? certainly that's what we've been led to believe so far. >> it seems that way to me from everything that i've seen from the media. certainly that's going to be one facet of the defense. i just have no idea yet. >> what is the next step right now, mr. o'mara? whi when do you go to court? >> there will be a bond motion tomorrow where a judge will hear some of the facts of the case and decide how and under what conditions to release mr. zirmmzir zimmerman. >> what...
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>> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a voice consultant saying zimmerman was noncon tronational. but it was a dummy that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of the day. it begin when the prosecutor grabbed a mannequin to show their version of events. >> do you recognize this as being a human-type figure, right? >> yes, sir. >> okay. >> it's actually got a belly button. >> reporter: it was here the state seemed to concede trayvon martin could have been on top of george zimmerman. suggesting he was pulling away at the time he was shot. previously the prosecution argued zimmerman was on top. >> would it be consistent the 90 degrees if trayvon martin had been backing up and the defendant raised his gun. >> reporter: the demonstration brought jurors to their feet to get a better view, realizing the impact that the defense attorney seized the prop for his own demonstration. >> were the injuries on mr. zimmerman's head consistent with someone doing this on cement? >>
>> yes, your honor. >> reporter: and with that, the defense rested. >> with all that in mind, the defense would rest. >> reporter: much of the day was spent on a voice consultant saying zimmerman was noncon tronational. but it was a dummy that proved to be one of the strongest witnesses of the day. it begin when the prosecutor grabbed a mannequin to show their version of events. >> do you recognize this as being a human-type figure, right? >> yes, sir....
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the defense may object. there are times when the defense wants to play an all or nothing game with the jury and say no, second degree, no manslaughter instruction. second degree or nothing. it's a very questionable move on their part, and i don't think that they will do it. even if they do, anderson, the judge can overrule them and say no, i'm giving the instruction. there is evidence to support it. and give the lesser included instruck shunl. i fully expect to see it here. >> thank you very much. let's get caught up with some of the other stories we're following. >> anderson, breaking news in egypt where the situation tonight is still very fluid, hours after the military deposed the country's first democratically elected president, the muslim brotherhood says mohammed morsy is under house arrest. according to egypt's state run media, eight people were kid and more than 300 wounded in clashes today, pro and anti-morsy demonstrators have filled the streets. >>> outrage in south america today. the plane carryi
the defense may object. there are times when the defense wants to play an all or nothing game with the jury and say no, second degree, no manslaughter instruction. second degree or nothing. it's a very questionable move on their part, and i don't think that they will do it. even if they do, anderson, the judge can overrule them and say no, i'm giving the instruction. there is evidence to support it. and give the lesser included instruck shunl. i fully expect to see it here. >> thank you...
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that implies a chase, not self-defense as the defense is trying to say. so listen how mr. o'mara went after this witness. >> when was the first time you ever told anybody that you heard or saw whatever it was, movement from left to right outside of your back door? was it today? and if so, just tell us. >> i don't know if it was just today. >> okay. i'll ask it this way. could it be that the first time you mentioned this new piece of evidence was just now as you testified? >> it could be. i don't know. >> reporter: this touches upon a sore spot for the defense, because they maintained in the past they believe that in discovering the witness didn't tell them everything. the fact that she jumps out and says left to right, they had never heard that. in the minds of the defense, it might have reinforced their colonel. they're going to go aggressively after all of these witnesses. >> we'll talk to mark o'mara later on tonight. our legal team will be with us throughout the night. jose baez will be here, mark geragos and sunny hostin. powerful testimony we heard today in that cour
that implies a chase, not self-defense as the defense is trying to say. so listen how mr. o'mara went after this witness. >> when was the first time you ever told anybody that you heard or saw whatever it was, movement from left to right outside of your back door? was it today? and if so, just tell us. >> i don't know if it was just today. >> okay. i'll ask it this way. could it be that the first time you mentioned this new piece of evidence was just now as you testified?...
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but the way the defense got it in, they kept saying there was consent to all this and the defense was very strong in their argument and during testimony. bill cosby's statement saying bill cosby admitted to the things but said it was consensu consensual. she was given some pills but wasn't woozy. wasn't unconscious. she didn't object. she never said no and she was able to say no. she was able to talk. in the closing argument, the defense actually started screaming at the top of their lungs in the courtroom and i have a quote here, they said, no one should be brought to an american courtroom to undergo this, screaming at the judge, directly at the judge. the judge obviously ruled that the case will go on. but the prosecution really focused on the elements and that they had proven that prima fascia case and i feel a bump and i looked up and right there was bill cosby, right above me. he was being led into the courtroom on the other side but he had bumped into my court bench really hard and the defense had said his eyesight is impaired. he is actually blind and can't see, and he went wal
but the way the defense got it in, they kept saying there was consent to all this and the defense was very strong in their argument and during testimony. bill cosby's statement saying bill cosby admitted to the things but said it was consensu consensual. she was given some pills but wasn't woozy. wasn't unconscious. she didn't object. she never said no and she was able to say no. she was able to talk. in the closing argument, the defense actually started screaming at the top of their lungs in...
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spitz. >> blasting the defense saying work was shoddy. we talked to a forensic pathologist who said he didn't think it was shoddy. how does the jury decide? is it just a case of which medical expert they decide to trust more? >> well, that's -- to some degree that's the case. but, no, dr. spitz is one of the five medical examiners who literally wrote the book that everybody relies on. he's a very, very respectable man. and i think his word will carry some weight with the jury. but what they're going to do, i think, or at least i think the defense hopes they would do, is look at what dr. spitz has to say and the problems with the tape we talked about before, the lack of dna, et cetera, et cetera, and say maybe it makes more sense. in fact, the remains were moved and if that's the case, of course, the suppositions of the prosecution regarding the tape as being a murder weapon are in serious trouble. >> we'll leave it there. paul henderson and andrea lyon, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> good to talk to you. >>> ahead, breaking news. new wo
spitz. >> blasting the defense saying work was shoddy. we talked to a forensic pathologist who said he didn't think it was shoddy. how does the jury decide? is it just a case of which medical expert they decide to trust more? >> well, that's -- to some degree that's the case. but, no, dr. spitz is one of the five medical examiners who literally wrote the book that everybody relies on. he's a very, very respectable man. and i think his word will carry some weight with the jury. but...